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#1 Leffy

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:30 AM

Moral, immoral?
Is it justified?

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:46 AM

Depends what you're fighting for.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:03 AM

Was going to war against Germany in WWII moral? I think so. However I think the Spanish/American war was a mistake. The American Civil War in the beginning was immoral. But turned moral with the emancipation proclamation.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:24 AM

Killing can never be justified.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:41 AM

Seems like a lot of people who go to war don't really understand why or why they're being attacked/attacking.

I think it's immoral to just kill without knowing why.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:06 AM

View PostNirvana, on 21 February 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Killing can never be justified.
At some point in your life you will think otherwise.
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:37 AM

View PostNirvana, on 21 February 2012 - 05:24 AM, said:

Killing can never be justified.


Yeah it can

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 08:58 AM

Religion leads to war and war leads to death and destruction.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 01:43 PM

War is the way to go I'm all for war
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:58 AM

View PostDogismo, on 21 February 2012 - 07:37 AM, said:

Yeah it can

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:36 AM

Like when you're fighting to save people, defending allies, protecting your country, etc.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:42 AM

fighting to save? sounds kinda oxymoronic to me... and the first thing that comes to mind when people say "defending" or "protecting" isn't killing people.

shooting to kill will always be immoral and wrong... shooting to wound when being attacked is fine by me.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:45 AM

View PostNirvana, on 22 February 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

fighting to save? sounds kinda oxymoronic to me... and the first thing that comes to mind when people say "defending" or "protecting" isn't killing people.

shooting to kill will always be immoral and wrong... shooting to wound when being attacked is fine by me.

So if another Hitler comes to power and starts killing a certain group of people, sitting back and doing nothing is moral and going to war to save those people is immoral?

"shooting to kill will always be immoral and wrong..."

Completely disagree. There's nothing wrong with killing someone who's trying to kill you. You're defending yourself.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:52 AM

View PostChannan, on 22 February 2012 - 02:45 AM, said:

So if another Hitler comes to power and starts killing a certain group of people, sitting back and doing nothing is moral and going to war to save those people is immoral?

"shooting to kill will always be immoral and wrong..."

Completely disagree. There's nothing wrong with killing someone who's trying to kill you. You're defending yourself.

Genocide could be treated a TAD differently lmfao.

and you said "defending yourself".... killing someone is NOT defending yourself
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:58 AM

lemme rephrase that...

it is STILL immoral and wrong to kill to stop genocide, but its more respectable because you're potentially saving the lives of millions.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:25 AM

Even non genocide, if a man has two children hostage and is armed with the intent of killing them, you bet your ass I'd kill him first.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:57 AM

View PostNirvana, on 22 February 2012 - 02:52 AM, said:

Genocide could be treated a TAD differently lmfao.

and you said "defending yourself".... killing someone is NOT defending yourself

So if someone is swinging a knife, trying to stab me and I pull out a gun and blow their brains out, I didn't just defend myself because I killed them? Lolwut????


View PostNirvana, on 22 February 2012 - 02:58 AM, said:

it is STILL immoral and wrong to kill to stop genocide

So are you saying it's moral to let them continue killing other people?

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:58 AM

i luv killing ppl

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:01 AM

Killed a man once. Messy job

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:04 AM

View PostChannan, on 22 February 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

So if someone is swinging a knife, trying to stab me and I pull out a gun and blow their brains out, I didn't just defend myself because I killed them? Lolwut????



So are you saying it's moral to let them continue killing other people?

1. no DEFENDING would be blocking it and running away. blowing their brains out is a bit more aggressive than a "defenseful" move amirite??

2. no cuz the act theyre doing (killing) is immoral (as ive stated) and it would be moral to stop them.
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