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#1 Chris230291

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Posted 05 January 2012 - 09:04 PM

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A series of patents published by the United States Patent and Trademark Office today (via PatentlyApple) suggested Apple is attempting to own as many Thunderbolt related trademarks and patents as possible. This is despite most being under the impression the technology is an open collaboration between Intel and Apple.

Perhaps the most noteworthy aspect of today’s patents is the possibility Apple might bring Thunderbolt to iOS devices. According to one of the patents published today, “a connection may be provided between a portable media player and a display, a computer and a portable media player, or between other types of devices.”

The benefit of supporting Thunderbolt connections on iOS devices, at least initially, would be to provide faster recharging and data transfer. It is unclear from the patents whether an iOS device would act as a Thunderbolt host machine, like a MacBook, or simply as a supported peripheral. As PatentlyApple pointed out, Apple would have to reengineer the Thunderbolt “connector to be flat enough to fit a USB-type of device slot.”

Apple is already experimenting with next-generation 30-pin connectors that would potentially support high-speed Thunderbolt-like connections. A patent originally filed in 2009, and reported by PatentlyApple in April 2011, showed that Apple is working on a new hybrid connector for iOS devices to support dual-lane Display Port technology (same as Thunderbolt).

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:57 PM

Sounds good to me
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:01 PM

thunderbolt is fucking awseome. stupidly highspeed file transfers and the ability to connect a whole bunch of different periferals is good. lol

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 09:51 PM

Yeah wait until Samsung copies it

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 10:43 PM

id imagine everyone will.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 02:40 AM

thunderbolt is the future.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 02:54 AM

it is.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 01:22 PM

heres an introduction...

http://www.apple.com/thunderbolt/

its also worth noting that this was a collaboration between apple and intel, however the technology will makes its way across the PC market eventually.

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Posted 07 January 2012 - 06:53 PM

Lol thought this was about the thunderbolt android phonr
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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:06 AM

I'm fine with USB 2.0, just wait.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 03:44 PM

none of you get it. screw you all.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:16 PM

thunderbolt will definitely take off.
and there's nothing wrong with firewire it's great, but no one really made any compatible hardware. thunderbolt already has a nice collection of shit and it's still a mac exclusive at the moment. thunderbolt is massively different to anything before it, not only can it do everything USB can, but i can do a whole bunch more and do them like a million times quicker. for example, you could daisy chain several monitors together from one single port. then from the monitor have a huge nas enclosure running, all at PCI e speed from that one hole on your machine.

if i single handedly have to make this take off, i will. what am i on about? it's already taken off in the mac community. so IF i had to i would lol.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:23 PM

View PostWolvy, on 08 January 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

Well it would do that, if apple put a dildo on the end of the mighty mouse it'd take off in the apple community as Apple would have made it! :P



i don't think it would lol.
it's a new standard. you just find it hard to believe because you don't have it yet. it'll be just like the iPhone was to smartphones.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 04:52 PM

View PostWolvy, on 08 January 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

iPhone was revolutionary before its release lol, a port is a port. If people decide they need it, they'll use it, however they're likely to carry on with their USB now they've got it.


exactly, but when the technology makes it's way to all manufactures, people like you will be acutely aware of this shiny new port on your computer. then when buying future products, you might decide to look into thunderbolt peripherals over USB. it's not like your supposed to go and rid everything USB and replace it with a thunderbolt counterpart. lol. things like mice and keyboards obviously have nothing (im aware of) to gain going to thunderbolt.

also this topic is about idevices, im sure everyone would be hyped to get any means of connecting peripherals to their idevices. i know you can fuck about with the camera connection kit, but i think this would be much better. it supports everything.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 06:19 PM

think of it an an external PCI e port rather than a USB or anything like that.
also this is apple's AND intel's creation. it was a joint effort.

as for charging quicker, i assume that's the cable itself maybe?
having said that, motherboards that accommodate thunderbolt will allow for extra power consumption. or id assume with claims like ...

"you can connect external devices like RAID arrays and video capture solutions directly to your Mac — and get PCI Express performance. That’s a first for any computer. Thunderbolt also provides 10 watts of power to peripherals, so you can tackle workstation-class projects. With PCI Express technology, you can use existing USB and FireWire peripherals — even connect to Gigabit Ethernet and Fibre Channel networks — using simple adapters."

and no, USB isn't anywhere near up to competing with thunderbolt, even if it was as fast.
as it stands USB 3.0 can transfer files at 5Gbps, whereas the thunderbolt is double that... and x2 channels!
a redesign was needed and that's why there's thunderbolt. if intel thought that USB (something they invented) was up to this, then they would have just modified USB.

even the thunderbolt cable itself is something special, what with all of the electronics inside the cables themselves! ok the cables are $50 from apple, but they will plummet when 3rd party manufactures make them. the same way HDMI cables did.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:35 PM

google it man, there's loads of info about it and how it works

and they may well keep the cable at that price, but 3rd party manufactures will make them cheaper eventually. all i know for sure though, is that its not just a few pieces of wire with a connector at each end.

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Posted 08 January 2012 - 09:36 PM

here's a better look at the cable...

http://www.ifixit.co...lightning-fast/

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Posted 15 February 2012 - 11:58 AM

If people want fast transfer speeds; they use sata III, if they want an high refresh video cable; they use HDMI, and if they want to charge up their iPhone really quickly, they'd either wait for the release of modified ion batteries that charge in 5 seconds, or they'd buy a power amp, and charge it in 10 minutes. Thunderbolt is a stupid buzzword cable, that makes everything slightly worse, costs a crap load, and claims to be simpler. Sounds scarilly like a mac. Mobile phones don't need any of this, which is why we use USB for them. USB is raw data. The pins are +, ground, data in, and data out. Making them simple enough to use with weekend projects, but work well enough to also use professionally. Support will be a nightmare for this product, as everyone who wants to use it, will have to pay a butt load of money to apple / intel. It's a cable that costs $50, it's not magic.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 06:23 PM

^ pretty much everything you say there is COMPLETELY wrong.lol.

SATA 3 is like 3-6 GB/s, thunderbolt is 20GB/s
Thunderbolt is capable of powering several displays at 2560-by-1440 via one cable.
There's no batteries commercial available that can charge in anywhere near 5 seconds. Your dreaming.
The cable has electronics at both ends, it not just a cable. HDMI leads cost this much when they were first about, yet there's nothing special going on inside them.

Judging by you'r anti mac comment, id say you'r just but hurt you wont have this for a while.